ohnny Depp and Amber Heard engaged in “mutual abuse” throughout their relationship, a therapist for the couple said.

Laurel Anderson, a clinical psychotherapist who has seen the couple many times, said Depp told her his ex-wife “gave as much as possible” during their fight .

The actor is suing Ms Heard for libel in the Washington Post in 2018 which his attorney alleges contained false allegations that he physically and sexually assaulted her while they were married.

Giving evidence at a US trial on Thursday, Ms Anderson said Mr Depp had struggled to keep up with “Mrs Heard’s style of talking” during their sessions.

Actress Amber Heard talks to attorney Elaine Bredehoft (Shawn Thew / Pool Photo via AP) / AP

She told jurors in Fairfax County Court.

“This is why (Mr Depp) doesn’t have a voice, he can’t keep up with her lightning-fast conversational style.

“He has been well controlled for decades, with Ms Heard he was activated and they engaged in what I consider to be mutual abuse.”

Ms Anderson said Ms Heard reported she was violent towards her ex-partner, saying it was a “point of pride” to start a fight if she felt “disrespected”.

“She felt she had to hit him back if he hit her so she always did,” she said.

“She loves him, he loves her… she’s not stupid, she knows what they’re doing is unhealthy so she wants to divorce him but she doesn’t.”

The court had previously heard testimony, via video, from Ms Heard’s former personal assistant, Kate James, who said the actress had sent her “barriers” of abusive text messages.

Actor Johnny Depp is suing Amber Heard for defamation (Shawn Thew / Pool Photo via AP) / AP

Ms James, who worked for the actress from 2012 to 2015, said verbal attacks were often “pointless” and Ms Heard needed “someone to lash out at”.

She was previously called to give evidence during Mr Depp’s 2020 trial in London, in which he sued the publisher of The Sun over an article calling him a “wife beater”.

The actor was denied permission to appeal the case in the Court of Appeal after a judge found that the claims in the article proved to be “essentially true”.

Ms. Heard’s Washington Post article was titled “I spoke out against sexual violence – and faced the outrage of our culture”.

It does not mention Mr. Depp by name.


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